Greetings, Ladies and Gentlemen and welcome to a new edition of my Who Would Win Series and it is going to be Darth Vader from Star Wars vs Sauron from The Lord of the Rings
This blog is going to be quite interesting in a sense that the capabilities of both combatants are further explored in the expanded material. For the sake of simplicity, I will only give certain materials to work with for this fight
For Vader, I decided to composite Vader from the films, games and even the Expanded Universe.
As for Sauron, because he has more feats outside of the Lord of the Rings Films, I decided to include his abilities that he has used in the Games, Books and Literature texts describing his power
Finally, I will look at the base stats, weapons, equipment, abilities, feats and weaknesses and finally, who I personally believe will win this fight.
So, as always, let's begin.
Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker
Darth Vader, also known as Anakin Skywalker, was once a gifted child with a destiny bestowed upon him. After a Jedi Master named Qui Gon Jinn realized that Anakin is the one who can bring balance to the Force, he insisted that Anakin should be trained as a Jedi Knight.
Over time, Anakin's lust for a senator named Padme Amidala made his emotions run wild, which is a stepping stone towards the Dark Side. Eventually, Anakin and Padme has a secret marriage and one day, Anakin had a nightmare about Padme's death due to child birth. Luckily, Chancellor Palpatine told Anakin of a legendary Sith Lord who had the power to save others from dying........ This story inspired Anakin to take crucial steps to becoming a Sith only to save Padme.....
Despite Chancellor Palpatine revealing himself to be the Emperor and the mastermind of the Clone Wars, Anakin still followed his judgement. Infact, It was Anakin who saved Palpatine from the wrath of the Jedi Order, hence he became Palpatine's favored apprentice and was named "Darth Vader".
After taking the mantle of Vader, Anakin slaughtered countless Jedi, has assassinated all of the Separatist Leaders, and had a duel with his former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi in Mustafar.
Unfortunately, Anakin lost the duel and was burnt to a crisp alongside a lava bed. Thankfully, Palpatine found Anakin and requested that he would be getting surgery and cybernetic implants to keep him alive..... Hence, Anakin no longer became a human..... he became a Cyborg.
Since then, Anakin, now officially Darth Vader at this point, has vowed to destroy all opposition and rule the galaxy alongside the Emperor.
And then he met his son Luke Skywalker and his daughter Leia Organa numerous times and actually saved Luke from the Emperor's wrath in the last moment, which actually fulfilled the Jedi's Prophecy of bringing balance to the Force. Sadly, Vader was killed afterwards, but his legacy as a Dark Lord has inspired numerous Dark Side forces in a attempt to conquer the Galaxy.
That is a straightforward background of Darth Vader, now, let's see what this badass Dark Lord can do.
Strength
Lord Vader is exceptionally strong. Thanks to his cybernetics for the most part, Vader still achieved a fair share of strength feats. Here is a list of his impressive feats for Strength:
- Has snapped the necks of numerous Rebels and Imperial Forces instantly with his bare hands. Some of them even wear helmets to protect their neck area
- Crushed a communicator with his bare hands.
- Threw away a person with just one hand across a room
- Kicked an assassin with such force, it was sent flying 15ft away from Vader's position.
- Crushed a lightsaber to dust without the use of the force............. Badass!!!!
- While injured, Vader chucked a Medical Droid
- Has upper cutted people so hard they are knocked from their feet.
- Almost disarmed Galen Marek with Two saber strikes
- Overpowered Luke Skywalker after numerous saber strikes, even slicing his hand off in the process
Speed
In terms of Speed, Vader, is one of the most underestimated combatants in this department. While in the movies he is quite slow in combat, Vader's use of the Force can amplify his speed to gargantuan heights. Here is a list of Speed feats for Lord Vader
- Intercepted a blaster bolt and deflected it back before it killed a Nautolan
- Moved with such speed, the guy who attempted to shoot him actually shot his own friend instead
- Deflected a point blank blast bolt
- Was ambushed by a crowd of skilled shooters, Vader, despite the element of surprise stacked against him, killed every single one of these shooters without any of them pulling a trigger
- Has surpassed Han Solo's Quick Draw. Solo can draw his DL-44 blaster with Faster than the Eye can track speeds
- Has killed enemies with Faster than the Eye can track speeds
Durability
Durability is quite interesting for Lord Vader. While there is a weakness for his durability that I will cover later on in the "Weakness" section, Vader still has endured a surprising amount of punishment. Here is a couple of feats for Lord Vader's Durability
- Was slashed at the back by a Jedi using a lightsaber and was unaffected by it's effects.
- Took a full on blast by an AT-AT Walker. An AT-AT Walker is a huge walker type vehicle that, when firing full powered energy blasts, can destroy a Large Shield Generator and even numerous City Blocks.
- Without his helmet, Vader survived an explosion to the face and suffered no injuries what so ever
- Was incinerated by two flamethrowers and still survived.
- Took multiple Force Attacks from Galen Merek, who can use the force to bring down a Star Destroyer.
- Has taken a Force Storm to his whole body and still survive.
- Took Wookie Bowcaster shots numerous times. Wookie Bowcasters are powerful enough to send armored droids and soldiers flying backwards
- Has survived numerous star fighters crashing near him at point blank range with no effects.
The Lightsaber
The Lightsaber is Lord Vader's iconic weapon. Lightsabers are the uniform weapons of Jedi, Sith and other Force Users for close range and even long range combat. Lightsabers are so powerful, they can cut through almost anything like butter. At the hands of a skilled warrior, Lightsabers can be used for both Offense and Defense depending on the situation at hand.
Force Abilities
Lord Vader is one of the most powerful Force Users in the Star Wars Mythos. Hence, he has a wide range of Force abilities that make him a very intimidating and versatile foe. Here is a list of Vader's Force abilities
Force Push: One of the most basic Force Powers used by Jedi, Sith and other Force Sensitives, Force Push allows the user to push their enemies away for devastating effects. Sometimes, the Force Push can be used with greater power, resulting in groups of enemies being pushed away, resulting in either unconsciousness's or even death.
Force Pull: Another widely used ability. Force Pull is basically the opposite of Force Push except it pulls objects and enemies towards the user. At greater power levels, Force Pull can disarm enemies and even disarm groups of enemies at once.
Force Absorption: Force Absorption allows the User to absorb Force based attacks. In various Star Wars material, Force Absorption can make the user absorb the Force and fuel their Force Energy. This makes the ability an extremely powerful asset to any Force User since it allows them to redirect Force attacks with more energy.
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| Master Yoda using Force Absorption |
Force Protection: Force Protection allows the User to become highly resistant to damage for a short period of time. However, in some instances, Force Protection lasts for about a minute or two and even can be used to prevent acidic rain from touching the User's body.
Force Block: Force Block allows the User to block Force attacks. This is very useful against another Force User because it can prevent the defender from being open to a kill shot.
Force Speed: Force Speed is an ability that allows the User to travel at Faster than the Eye can track speeds. It also increases the Combat speed for the User, giving them a huge advantage against an enemy who is significantly slower than them.
Force Jump: Force Jump allows the User to Jump very high and travel at long distances. A powerful Force Jump can allow the User to reach the top of a building and tall platforms.
Mind Trick: Mind Trick is an ability that allows the User to manipulate the minds of others. It can be used to allow the victim to obey commands or even Persuasion purposes. The effects last for a short time but it can give the User more time for options.
Force Heal: An extremely powerful ability, Force Heal is simple, it allows the User to regenerate their Stamina and Health to keep on fighting. While some Jedi/Sith use this ability while being stationary, a skillful Jedi/Sith can use this ability while moving, which can let them regenerate while on the run
Force Vision: Force Vision allows Vader to sense a presence with the Force.
Force Sight: Force Sight is similar to Force Vision. However, this time, it allows the User to see anything using the Force. It can even prevent blindness and allows the User to see in extremely dark places.
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| Vader using Force Choke |
Force Choke: Force Choke allows the user to choke their victims using the Force. . This also results in the victim losing their life in the process.
Force Fear/Insanity: Using the Force, A Jedi and a Sith are capable of causing fear to their victims. Insanity however can cause fear to a group of enemies at once. This allows the User to capitalize on the situation and finish off their opponent.
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| Vader using Kinetite |
Force Deflection: Force Deflection allows the User to deflect blaster fire without the use of a lightsaber. This makes them far less vulnerable to projectile attacks.
Force Stun/Stasis Field: Force Stun allows the User to stun their opponent. The most powerful version, Stasis Field, can stun groups of enemies at once.
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| Mara Jade using Force Stun on a Rebel Soldier |
Lightsaber Manipulation: Vader can use his lightsaber for both close range and long range combat. He can use the force to let the lightsaber travel at very high speeds and slice up a group of enemies at once and return it to his hand afterwards. Vader is also capable of using the Force to allow the Saber to be controlled manually for a brief period of time.
Skills
Lord Vader is one of the most skilled Force Users in Star Wars. Aside from his Force capabilities, Vader himself is also a superb battlefield commander, infact, it was Vader who has won countless battles for the Empire and nearly defeated the Rebellion entirely if not for sheer luck and coincidental circumstances.
In his childhood years, Vader is a skilled Pod Racer, a skilled mechanic and has a vast knowledge of starship capabilities and components that surprised even the pilot of Queen Amidala's Vessel.
And of course, Vader is a legendary swordsman. He is one of the most dangerous warriors in lightsaber combat and has even defeated numerous Jedi Masters due to his lightsaber skills alone.
Feats for Darth Vader
Of course, Darth Vader is legendary for countless reasons. It would take a couple of pages to do his resume justice so, for the sake of this blog, I will list a handful of Vader's incredible Resume, making him one of the most powerful characters in Star Wars
- Has officially, and cleanly, without hesitation, defeated a partially trained Luke Skywalker
- Defeated Count Dooku in one of the funniest lightsaber duels I ever seen (As Anakin)
- Won the Boonta Eve Pod Race (As Anakin)
- Has killed Emperor Palpatine, saving Luke Skywalker's life
- Killed Obi-Wan Kenobi
- Slaughtered numerous Wookie's in Kashyyk and a Jedi Knight
- Trained Galen Merek to become his apprentice for a while
- Is one of the very few individuals who Emperor Palpatine admired, even going as far as to say Vader is even more powerful than himself.
- Took down multiple hostile Aliens at once and prevailed.
- Has taken down two Jedi Knights by himself and won.
- Took down a group of Jedi Padawans with no effort.
- Has literally, the most badass voice in all of fiction
- Is the coolest Star Wars character hands down!!!!!
Weaknesses
Despite being the Legendary Dark Lord, Vader himself is by no means Invincible. In actuality, Vader himself is also one of the easiest combatants to put down should anyone exploit his one obvious flaw: His life support systems.
Vader is alive from his ordeal in Mustafar thanks to his cybernetic life Support systems attached to his Armor, should the support systems be damaged or malfunction, Vader will be in a critical state and even die.
What's more, Vader himself cannot use Force Lightning because the electrical surges would fry up his own systems and shut them down entirely.
Also, Vader, despite being very fast, is still able to be speed blitzed by someone who are casually Faster than Light speeds. Vader himself never demonstrated any level of FTL feats that make him react to anything that is around that level of speed.
And finally, Vader has died after the Battle of Endor, meaning, there really is nothing much to explore after his death.
Despite his weaknesses, Darth Vader is legendary in every sense of the word. He is essentially one of the very few villains in fiction than you can root to win and Vader has the coolest voice of all time!!!!! Bottom line, Darth Vader is the best Movie Villain in history that is not Godzilla XD!!!!
Sauron
Sauron is the "Lord of the Rings" and the creator of the One Ring. A fallen Maia formerly known as "Mairon", Sauron became a servant of the Dark Lord Melkor, who is also known as Morgoth. After Melkor's defeat at the hands of the Valar, Sauron eventually took on the mantle as the Second Dark Lord and attempted to conquer Arda by crafting the Rings of Power.
During this time, Sauron has taken on numerous Forces of Good and has attempted to enslave Middle-Earth to his will. Unfortunately, Isildur, Elendil's son, managed to defeat Sauron and took the One Ring for himself. However, despite all of this, Sauron has eventually returned and vows to take back what was his and finally put an end to Middle-Earth's conflict..... by destroying the Forces of Good.
Sadly, Sauron himself never achieved his vision, as he was finally defeated at the end of the Third Age thanks to a Hobbit known as Frodo Baggins, who actually destroyed the One Ring by casting it into the fires of Mount Doom.
Since then, the legend of Sauron and the One Ring has become one of the most enduring stories for generations to come.
That is a brief summary of Sauron, now, let's see what the Dark Lord is capable of.
Strength
While Sauron himself may not have the most amount of feats for Strength, he has a couple of feats that make him.... Amazing. Here are a couple of Strength Feats for the Dark Lord
- Has swung his mace with such force, he can destroy an entire battalion of troops with just one swing.
- Can destroy practically every material in Middle-Earth with his physical strength alone
- Can punch Celebrimbor with such force, he was sent flying backwards (Shadow of War)
- Can one shot entire buildings with his might (Games)
Speed
Sadly, Sauron lacks notable speed feats. That said, he can be quite fast if the situation demands it. Here is a few speed feats for Sauron
- Can react to Celebrimbor's attacks, who can attack at Faster than the Eye can track speeds (Shadow of War)
- Can block arrows and crossbow bolts fired at him
- Surpasses Legolas' Attack Speed, who can shoot his arrows at lightning speeds.
- Existed in the Timeless Halls, a place that transcended linear time and is best likened to a higher temporal dimension
Durability
Sauron's Durability..... is absolutely badass. Being one of the Maia, Sauron has exceptional Durability and thanks to Power Scaling, can be superior to numerous Maia. Here is a list of Durability feats for Sauron.
- Scales above Gandalf, who tanked mountain level attacks from the Balrog. What's more, Gandalf the White's durability is superior to Gandalf the Grey's by a large margin, making him above country level.
- Took a blast from Eru Iluvitar, Tolkien's equivilant of "God". The blast itself destroyed a very large Island and while Sauron's body was destroyed, Sauron's spirit still survived the blast.
- Took lightning bolts from the Valar, who are vastly more powerful than Maia. However, Sauron himself not only took these lightning bolts, he shrugs them off like they were nothing. What's more, because he achieved a feat that would otherwise have destroyed him, it is clear that Sauron would probably be even more powerful than the Maia and the Valar saved only for his old master Melkor/Morgoth
- Took numerous blasts from Elvish Storms and Lightning and still keeps moving like they are nothing
- Is literally resistant to physical attacks at the peak of his power
Equipment
Sauron is armed for battle. Here is a handful of his standard weapons and items for combat.
Mace: The Mace is Sauron's signature weapon. At the hands of Sauron, the mace is absolutely ridiculous in terms of raw power. It can shatter the most durable material with ease, can casually destroy an army of soldiers and decimate even large buildings with one swing. Clearly, the Mace is a force to be reckoned with.
The One Ring: Without a doubt, the corner stone of Sauron's power and the sole reason why the Lord of the Rings has a memorable story is the One Ring. In order to effectively use the One Ring, the user must have a strong will and spirit to endure it's effects. In the case of Sauron, he specifially forged the One Ring to dominate the minds of his enemies and control the Rings of Power. It is also because of the Ring that Sauron's life force became one with it. Hence, the Ring is a vital asset to SauronAbilities
In terms of abilities, Sauron is a powerhouse in every sense of the word. Here is a list of his abilities for combat
Fires of Doom: A terribly powerful magic attack in which Sauron calls down several meteors to destroy his opponents. The attack also causes fear among every enemy in it's vicinity and the meteors themselves can cover a huge area of land and turn it into a wasteland in mere seconds
Elemental Manipulation: Sauron not only is a powerful character, he is also a powerful Wizard. Yes, Sauron himself is one of the most powerful magic users in Middle-Earth, and his Elemental Manipulation allows him to control elements for offensive purposes such as destroying entire armies with Fire attacks or Earth based attacks like causing Earthquakes.
Weather Manipulation: Another powerful ability for Sauron is his Weather Manipulation. While Sauron himself rarely used this ability, he still has a couple of feats such as clouding entire fortresses and encampments with severe storms, decimating the inhabitants entirely
Mind Manipulation: Sauron is one of the most powerful telepath's in Middle-Earth. He can dominate the minds of others with just a thought, and even causes fear to those under his influence.
Reality Warping: Sauron...... can warp reality at the peak of his power. This means, he can transmute people into anything he desires, defy the laws of physics by creating weapons and other items in thin air and even time manipulation. Clearly, Sauron's magic is ridiculous at this point XD!!
Invulnerability: While technically more of a durability stat, Sauron's invulnerability is unique in that he can only be harmed by specific items or specific rules. That said, Sauron is virtually invulnerable to conventional attacks and is literally Immortal.
Intangibility: Sauron is also a spirit, hence, should his physical body be destroyed, Sauron is still untouchable to physical attacks.
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| Sauron demonstrating Shapeshifting |
Skills/Experience
Being one of the oldest beings of Arda, Sauron is one of the most experienced magic users to ever existed. Skill wise, Sauron is a master in all forms of magic at his desire and it is thanks to his mastery of magic that he has achieved a gargantuan amount of feats that clearly make him Middle-Earth's most feared and dangerous foe.
Sauron is also a master of disguise, as said before his shapeshifting allows him to become a very decieving enemy to those he attempts to infiltrate.
Magic aside, Sauron is also a legendary warrior. He isn't just a powerful Wizard, Sauron is also a powerful Warrior. His combat skills are far greater than even Gandalf, rivaled only by Glorfindel and surpassed by the Valar (Well, they are creators of the Middle-Earth Universe so that is still something for Sauron anyway XD!!!)
But by far, one of Sauron's trademark skills is his exceptional battlefield tactics. Sauron has fought in numerous battles over the course of Middle-Earth's history of warfare and has conquered vast amounts of land for the Forces of Evil because of his strategies alone.
Feats for Sauron
Of course, Sauron is legendary. While he may not have as many feats as alot of fictional characters, he still has quite a resume to behold. Here is a list of Sauron's Feats and accomplishments
- Has officially, and cleanly, defeated countless Elven, Dwarven and Human armies on the battlefield by himself
- Has tanked planet level attacks from the Valar and still survive
- Resisted a mind manipulation attack from Celebrimbor
- Killed Elendil, who is the father of Isildur
- Overpowered the minds of some of the most strong willed beings of Middle-Earth
- Corrupted Saruman into joining the Forces of Evil
- Won nearly 90% of his battles through tactics and sheer power
Weaknesses
Despite Sauron's godlike power, he has lost in combat before. Infact, Sauron lost not once, not twice, but three times while he wears the One Ring. It also doesn't help that Sauron's speed is quite slow in his physical form by combat standards.
Speaking of the One Ring, should it be cast down into the fires of Mount Doom, not only will it be destroyed, Sauron himself will be defeated utterly..........
Still, Sauron's weaknesses are quite difficult to pinpoint. He loses mostly due to plot armor. If not with luck or a lucky blow like what Isildur achieved at the Battle of the Last Alliance and The Forces of Evil, Sauron would have certainly won the war.
In the end, Sauron is one of the most legendary characters in fiction. What's more, I have deep respect for Sauron for being one of the most influential villains in literature and in fiction in general. Clearly, The Dark Lord deserves all the acclaim he gets :D!!!
Summary
Darth Vader
Advantages
- With the Force, Vader's Speed surpasses Sauron's Combat Speed for a moment
- Can use the Force to overpower Sauron
- Voiced by James Earl Jones
- Lightsaber is way cooler than Sauron's Mace
Disadvantages
- Practically hopeless in terms of Strength and Durability compared to Sauron
- Literally cannot destroy Sauron entirely due to his weaker power and the fact that Sauron can truly be destroyed with the destruction of the One Ring
- His Force Powers, while pretty impressive, absolutely gets obliterated by Sauron's Magic
- His life support systems will be damaged by Sauron's Elemental Manipulation and of course, his Weather Control.
- Far less experienced than Sauron.
Sauron
Advantages
- Much Stronger and more Durable than Vader
- The only way to completely defeat Sauron is to destroy the One Ring....... Which Vader would simply have no knowledge of how to achieve this in a random encounter
- Far greater power thanks to his Magic
- Much more experienced due to being over 10+ thousand years old.
- Sauron's Elemental and Weather Control can destroy Vader's life support systems, which proves devastating.
Disadvantages
- His Mace is more likely going to be sliced by the Lightsaber
- Vader would probably be faster than Sauron once he uses Force Speed
- His voice, while badass, is not as cool as Vader's Voice
- Vader can use the Force to overpower Sauron.
Conclusion
Darth Vader vs Sauron is one of my favorite match ups. This match up in particular is special for me since it has two of my childhood favorite villains in fiction pitting against each other. Sadly, this match up is not even a close call, Sauron literally has this in the bag.
Firstly, in terms of Stats, Vader might be faster than Sauron with Force Speed.... Everything else? SAURON DESTROYS VADER BY A LANDSLIDE!!!!!! Vader can kick an assassin 15ft form his position right? Sauron, with one swing of his mace, can destroy a battalion of troops and destroy a large building........ No contest, Sauron wins the Strength department
Durability wise, Vader can shrug off a lightsaber slash, Sauron can shrug off a lightning attack from the Valar, who are essentially Middle-Earth's creators........ Sauron takes the Durability edge by a large margin
So, the only way for Lord Vader to have a shot at winning is if he can use the Force to somehow get to Sauron.... and that is impossible.
While Vader's Force attacks would overpower Sauron, the trouble is that he will eventually get bombarded by Sauron's own magic, which, well, can cover much bigger areas of land than Vader ever achieved in his lifetime. This alone proves that Sauron's magic not only surpassed Vader's in terms of power, but also in terms of scope. Sauron simply can just end the match by summoning a barrage of giant meteors at Vader at once. Or, he could simply destroy Vader's life support systems using Weather Manipulation to summon lightning or even cause an Earthquake to make Vader fall to his death in a bottomless pit.
What's more, Vader simply can't kill Sauron entirely because Sauron has a trump card: The One Ring.
In order to put Sauron down for Good, Vader has to destroy the One Ring, and the only methods he has to do so is to try and slice it with his Lightsaber or Cast it into the fires of Mount Doom.
Cutting the One Ring with the Lightsaber is useless because it is stated that the ring cannot be destroyed by anything unless it is magical based, a Lightsaber is not a magical weapon. That alone completely removes the Lightsaber as a factor in the match up
As for the second method, Vader first has to know about destroying the Ring by casting it into Mount Doom.... which is impossible for him to do so in a random encounter because he has no knowledge of how to achieve this without prep time.
Basically, Sauron is simply too powerful for Vader to handle. And if that's not enough, Sauron is over thousands of years old..... Vader, is just as old as any human, which gradually makes him laughable compared to Sauron in terms of experience.
Overall, Sauron is just too strong, too durable, too powerful, impossible to take down without knowing about destroying the Ring, and finally, too badass. Sorry Darth Vader, your cooler than Sauron, but I guess the "Lord of the Rings" finally won the "Star Wars"........... Since Sauron himself is a "Star" in his own universe.... XD!!!!!
The Winner is Sauron
Next time, The Season Finale of Who Would Win.............
Ruby Rose (RWBY) vs Akame (Akame Ga Kill)
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