Greetings and Welcome to another edition of my Who Would Win Series and it is going to be Kyle Katarn from Star Wars vs Alexander Munro from Star Trek
This match up is going to be straightforward since both combatants are all about Weaponry..... Lots of Weapons...... :D!!!!!
Aside from that, I will also include Stats, Feats, Abilities and Weaknesses.
Kyle's Info is going to be directly from the Games Dark Forces, Dark Forces 2, Jedi Knight Outcast/Academy.
As for Alex, his info is, you guessed it, directly from the Games Elite Force and Elite Force 2.
However, there will be supplement info for both sides from different media to expand on their potential. That said, The Games will be the primary source of content for this blog
Now, let's see who will win in the first ever "Star Wars vs Star Trek match up"
Let's Begin!!!!!
Kyle Katarn
Kyle Katarn is the main character of the Video Game Series "Dark Forces/Jedi Knight".
The Son of Morgan and Patricia Katarn, Kyle lived the life of a Farmer. One day, he was enlisted into the Imperial Academy and eventually Graduated.
Turns out however, Morgan Katarn was killed by the Empire, and the Empire lied to Kyle into thinking that the Rebels killed his father.
Kyle however learned the cold hard truth when Rebel Fighter Jan Ors shown him footage of his father's Death and eventually, this caused Kyle to desert the Empire and Join forces with the Rebel Alliance.
It is actually Kyle and Jan Ors who stole the Death Star Plans and gave them to the Alliance, which turned the tide significantly (Until Rogue One A Star Wars Story redid the story XD!!!)
One Year after the Battle of Endor and Four Years after Kyle and Jan Ors stole the plans of the Death Star, Kyle found out that it was Jerec who killed his Father
Kyle had a vision in the Force by Master Rahn, who told Kyle that should Jerec find the legendary "Valley of the Jedi", he would be invincible. Thus, this gave Kyle a quest into stopping Jerec and his Dark Forces plans of Galactic Domination, which of course, Kyle Succeeded...... By becoming a Jedi himself.
After the defeat of Jerec, Training Mara Jade and resisting the Dark Side in the Game "Mysteries of the Sith", Kyle severed his connection to the Force and lived on with life.
Two Years after Mysteries of the Sith, Kyle and Jan Ors were on a mission to investigate rumors of Imperial Activity in the planet Kejim. Of course, Imperial Forces were indeed doing some evil deeds by mining Crystals that were used for experiments on prisoners.
This same event also led to Jan Ors being kidnapped by the Remnant led by Desann, a Dark Jedi.
Of course, Kyle succeeded once again and even rescued Jan Ors, assisted Lando Calrissian with some classic Star Wars missions, and even reestablished his connection to the Force and became a true Jedi Knight, under the guidance of Luke Skywalker himself.
Kyle eventually became a Jedi Master and trained two younglings Jaden Korr and Rosh Penin. Of those two, Jaden actually became the more successful and least corrupted. Canonically speaking, Rosh turned to the Dark Side after being tempted by Tavion, one of Desann's Servants. Thankfully, Jaden resisted the Dark Side and spared Rosh when the opportunity came. Thus, both Jaden and Kyle eventually became major players in defeating another wave of Remnant Forces.
Overall, Kyle Katarn became a major character in Star Wars lore and while Disney eventually made his arc "Non Canon", Kyle's Story is never forgotten from a Galaxy Far Far Away.
That is a more straight forward backstory for Kyle Katarn. Let's see what this Jedi Master can do.
Stats
While Kyle Katarn is indeed quite impressive in terms of Stats. He isn't much stronger than a Regular Human is in terms of Physical Strength. HOWEVER!!!!!! Speed and Durability do give a substantial boost to Kyle's Capabilities. So, let's look at Speed and Durability for Kyle
Speed
- Dodged Blaster Fire from numerous Stormtroopers, Mercenaries and Bounty Hunters
- Has being able to dodge Force Lightning, even without using the Force.
- Was able to pilot the Raven's Claw just in the nick of time, while trying to escape a falling ship. The time it took for Kyle to actually achieve this feat is legendary, considering it required Kyle to do specific steps such as firing the starboard and port engines to bid more time before impact. Thankfully, Kyle managed to escape the Falling Ship, but my was it quite intense
- Has managed to reach multiple levels in a time span of 5-10 minutes. Some of these levels involve large Cargo Rooms, Wide open areas, Cities, Towns and even Hostile Terrains.
- Was able to escape an Imperial Space Station that was inside an Asteroid after initiating the self destruct sequence.
- Of course, Kyle has fought Dark Jedi, who have FTL speed feats such as Beam Deflection, Saber Strikes and Amplified Speed with Force Speed, which increases their speed by over 200%
Durability
- Took Blaster Fire
- Has survived Thermal Detonators exploding at him from 10 ft away
- Able to survive Trip Mines
- Survived a Force thrashing from Desann. This was when Kyle severed his connection to the Force.
- Has survived numerous Lightsaber Strikes.
- Able to survive Force Attacks that drain the life out of the victim.
- Did survive beams from the Tenloss Disruptor Rifle. However, this is before it's fully charged.
- Can survive Radiation Poisoning longer than a regular human would
- Survived Gammorean Axe swings.
- Took attacks from underwater creatures.
- Has his own personal shield that reduces incoming damage.
Weaponry
Kyle is armed with a wide array of weapons. For the sake of the blog, I decided to use his weaponry from Jedi Knight Jedi Academy. However, they all share the same function as previous weapons in the games Dark Forces 1 and 2, so the images and capabilities are not much more different anyway XD!!!!
Here are the weapons used by Kyle Katarn
Stun Baton
The Stun Baton is Kyle's First Melee Weapon, if not including his own fists. While basic, it can be lethal as it discharges electrical currents on the opponent, stunning or outright killing them with surprising efficiency.
Bryar Blaster Pistol
Kyle's iconic Bryar Blaster packs a good amount of firepower. It's First Function is just a blaster shot but the secondary Function gets interesting. In Dark Forces 2, it emits a shot that can ricochet around walls and even environmental terrain that can create tricky shots. But in Jedi Knight Outcast, The Blaster now has a charge up function and fully charged, is powerful enough to not only one shot a Stormtrooper or Mercenary, but also send them backwards at over 8 feet. That's right, this blaster's secondary function now has the same firepower as a pointblank shotgun!!!!!
DL-44 Blaster
The DL-44 Blaster Pistol is actually another handheld weapon used by Kyle, Mara Jade and more famously, Han Solo. It basically fires at high speeds and, the secondary function charges up the blast for maximum damage. Identical Power to the Bryar Pistol
E-11 Blaster Rifle
The E-11 Blaster Rifle is one of the most common Blasters. It's main function is a Energy Blaster Shot that may not be as accurate as the Pistol types, but still efficient enough to get the job done. However, it's secondary function turns this weapon into a Automatic Rifle, and the fire rate sacrifices Accuracy for more Speed and Damage. Perfect for decimating groups of enemies. It also has a Scope for Sniping purposes. Versatile indeed :D!!!
Tenloss Disruptor Rifle
A high powered Sniper Rifle, the Tenloss Disruptor Rifle is one of the deadliest weapons in Kyle's Arsenal. This Rifle fires a concentrated beam that, with it's standard function, can simply strike at the enemy with pinpoint accuracy. However, when using the scope, the beam can be fully charged and when successfully triggered, will completely vaporize the victim to nothing.... That's right, this Sniper Rifle can literally turn you into nothingness because all of your molecules are basically vaporized to the point that your "Erased from Existence"
Wookie Bowcaster
The Wookie Bowcaster is actually a modified version of the original design. The weapon itself was so heavy for physically weaker species, the type that Kyle uses is actually much lighter for greater control and comfort.
That said, the weapon has virtually identical functions to the original design. A standard blast is powerful enough to send foes back at 10 feet. But, Fully charged, it can create a multi shot blast that can be devastating to groups of foes.
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| A Fully charged Bowcaster blast |
The Secondary Function is a Ricochet shot that can be used for tricky tactics, even hit intended targets. Can bounce off any wall and environmental terrain.
Imperial Heavy Repeater
Kyle has used two types of the Heavy Repeater. The first used a rapid fire function and the secondary function was a triple shot in a triangular pattern that deals damage, ideal for short range. But, the Second and more recent version, fires Rapid Fire Bolts and the Secondary Function fires a Concussive Blast that is comparable to a Grenade.
However, the blast doesn't bounce off like a Grenade, when it makes an impact, it explodes. Absolutely devastating!!!
Destructive Electromagnetic Pulse 2
The Electromagnetic Pulse 2 Rifle is actually a specialized weapon. It fires bolts of Electricity that are ideal for damage, but, they are exceptionally effective against Droids and Mechanical Type Enemies.
The Secondary Function fires a charged up Electrical Ball that when on impact, creates a wide radius of electricity that damages all in it's vicinity. This doesn't affect the wielder of the weapon.
Golan Arms FC-1 Flechette Weapon
One of the most powerful firearms in Kyle's Arsenal, the Flechette is actually a Shotgun that functions just like, well, a shotgun. It fires a spray of bolts that is perfect for close ranged combat. However, it's secondary function fires two mines that can bounce off surfaces. But when it makes contact with an enemy, it can explode on impact instantly, delivering massive damage.
Merr-Son PLX-2M Portable Missile System
A powerful Rocket Launcher, this functions exactly like a traditional Rocket Launcher. Fires a Rocket, Bing Badda Boom, it gets the job done with devastating results.
The Secondary Function is a Lock On System that is ideal for tracking down targets. Delivers the same amount of Damage on impact, which is still wide and "Explosive"
Concussion Rifle
Without a doubt, Kyles most powerful Firearm is the Concussion Rifle. This monster of a Gun can fire a blast so powerful, it can cause multiple explosions on Impact. In Dark Forces 2, this blast is able to kill anyone that is around 15ft from the blast.
Secondary Function fires a concentrated beam that doesn't have the blast radius, but sacrifices Area of Effect for superior damage. In the hands of a skilled marksman, this function literally ends a 1v1 battle cleanly.
Thermal Detonators
A handheld Grenade with two functions. The First is able to be thrown and bounce off terrain for tricky and close up explosive results that are dangerous to groups of enemies. The Secondary Function is a instant explosion on Impact.
Kyle can set the timer before throwing the Detonator but if he holds the button for too long, the Detonator explodes and damages him, killing Kyle instantly in fact. Still, in the hands of a competent combatant, the Detonator packs a whomp.
Triple Mines
A very basic function in that it can pretty much detonate when a target crosses it's targeting line. The cool part about the mines is that they stick into any surface and are ideal as dangerous traps. The downside here is that they give away their position thanks to the targeting beam so a clever enough opponent can simply shoot at the Mine and wala, Safe and Sound.
Detonation Packs
The Star Wars version of C4 Explosives, the Detonation Packs are great for catching opponents off guard when chased down. They can stick to any surface and are remotely detonated when the button is pressed. These Detonation Packs are superior to the Trip Mines because they do not have a targeting beam that gives away their position and, you can literally surprise the opponent with just a button press when they are in close proximity, a perfect deathblow.
But of Course.......
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| An Elegant Weapon from a more Civilized Age |
Yep, Kyle has his own Lightsaber. And, well, it is a weapon that is so iconic that it may as well be Kyle's only weapon for any Vs Debate hahahaha
The Lightsaber is a Focused Beam Saber that cuts through almost anything. It is ideal for combat and great for Defense when deflecting Blaster Bolts, Projectiles and of course, Lightsaber Combat.
Kyle can use three different styles with the Lightsaber.
Fast: Quick Strikes that are superb for deflection and decimating groups of Stormtroopers and Mercenaries.
Normal: Well...... Not really much to say. Its the Standard and Balanced Style. A Jack of all trades XD!!!!!
Strong: This Style is Kyle's Way of overwhelming foes with power behind his lightsaber strikes. The catch here is that this style reduces his combat speed and deflection by a huge amount. But, once it lands, the damage output skyrockets compared to his fast and Normal styles. This style is perfect against Lightsaber wielders, overwhelming their defenses and ultimately, win duels alone.
Force Powers
Kyle has one of the most versatile uses of the Force. He can use both Light Side and Dark Side Powers towards the end of the Jedi Knight Series. Originally, he can only use One set of powers that were Light or Dark, supported by Universally used Force powers, but canonically, Kyle used Light Side Powers in Dark Forces 2.
Now, after Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast and Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, Kyle can use both Light Side and Dark Side Force Powers and still be a Noble Jedi at heart. Here is a list of Force Powers wielded by Kyle Katarn
Force Push: One
of the most basic Force Powers used by Jedi, Sith and other Force
Sensitives, Force Push allows the user to push their enemies away for
devastating effects. Sometimes, the Force Push can be used with greater
power, resulting in groups of enemies being pushed away, resulting in
either unconsciousness's or even death.
Force Pull:
Another widely used ability. Force Pull is basically the opposite of
Force Push except it pulls objects and enemies towards the user. At
greater power levels, Force Pull can disarm enemies and even disarm
groups of enemies at once.
Force Absorption: Force Absorption allows the User to absorb Force based attacks. In various Star Wars material, Force Absorption can make the user absorb the Force and fuel their Force Energy. This makes the ability an extremely powerful asset to any Force User since it allows them to redirect Force attacks with more energy.
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| Yoda using Force Absorption |
Force Protection: Force Protection allows the User to become highly resistant to damage for a short period of time. However, in some instances, Force Protection lasts for about a minute or two and even can be used to prevent acidic rain from touching the User's body.
Force Heal:
An extremely powerful ability, Force Heal is simple, it allows the User
to regenerate their Stamina and Health to keep on fighting. While some
Jedi use this ability while being stationary, a skillful Jedi can use
this ability while moving, which can let them regenerate while on the
run.
Force Block: Force
Block allows the User to block Force attacks. This is very useful
against another Force User because it can prevent the defender from
being open to a killshot.
Force Speed: Force
Speed is an ability that allows the User to travel at Faster than the
Eye can track speeds. It also increases the Combat speed for the User,
giving them a huge advantage against an enemy who is significantly
slower than them.
Force Jump: Force
Jump allows the User to Jump very high and travel at long distances. A
powerful Force Jump can allow the User to reach the top of a building
and tall platforms.
Mind Trick: Mind
Trick is an ability that allows the User to manipulate the minds of
others. It can be used to allow the victim to obey commands or even
Persuasion purposes. The effects last for a short time but it can give
the User more time for options.
Force Vision:
Force Vision allows the user to sense a presence with the Force. It can
also give the user foresight, see the future and past, and even
experience events that happened from light years away.
Force Sight: Force
Sight is similar to Force Vision. However, this time, it allows the
User to see anything using the Force. It can even prevent blindness and
allows the User to see in extremely dark places.
Force Choke: Force Choke allows the user to choke their victims using the Force. This also results in the
victim losing their life in the process.
Force Lightning: Force
Lighting allows the User to project lightning from their finger tips.
Kyle's Version can decimate entire squads of Stormtroopers with just one blast alone.
Skills
One of the most powerful and skilled Jedi of his time, Kyle is also, highly skilled in all ranges of combat such as the use of firearms and heavy ordinance.
With the Lightsaber, Kyle is directly comparable to Luke Skywalker, who at that point is considered to be the most skilled Jedi Master of his time. A prestigious claim, considering Kyle is now a full fledged Jedi Master, just like Luke
Of course, Kyle is exceptional at Operative Missions. And his resume proves he can pretty much do anything to get the job done such as Stealth, Espionage, Intel Gathering and of course, using the enemy's own weapons against them. Kyle demonstrated this by using Imperial Turrets to mow down Stormtroopers, infiltrating the Imperial Space Station to save the Rebels and even pilot the AT-ST walker..... That's legendary
Feats and Accomplishments for Kyle Katarn
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| Kyle, Jan and WeeGee at the end of Dark Forces 2 (Light Side) |
Being the central character of the Jedi Knight and Dark Forces Series, Kyle Katarn has accomplished legendary feats that resonate in Star Wars History. Here are a handful of feats achieved by the legendary Jedi
- Has officially, and cleanly, stole the Death Star Plans from the Empire and sent them to the Rebel Alliance. This in turn became the catalyst for Star Wars a New Hope's Climatic Battle against the Death Star, which Luke Skywalker ultimately destroyed thanks to the Death Star Plans being a cornerstone of the mission.
- Defeated, I kid you not, Boba Fett and lived to tell the Tale. He didn't kill Boba mind you but the fact Kyle survived him is monumental. And this was before Kyle was using Force Powers!!!!!!
- Defeated The Dark Jedi Jerec and his Comrades. Jerec even had the Valley of the Jedi's Power given to him but Kyle, actually defeated him. Bear in mind, this is a guy, who killed a Dark Jedi that was channeling enough Force Energy to pretty much destroy the strongest individuals in Star Wars. And Kyle, KILLED JEREC!!!!!!! Absolutely Legendary
- Able to Rescue Jan Ors from Jerec and his remaining Forces.
- Trained Mara Jade and eventually, saved her from total destruction by the Imperials by blowing up the Imperial Space Station.
- Has officially turned back from the Dark Side of the Force thanks to Mara Jade's Guidance
- Defeated Tavion cleanly. Who is Desann's Loyal Servant.
- Defeated Desann, a Dark Jedi.
- Trained Jaden Korr and Rosh Penin to become successful students. Jaden Korr in particular defeated Marka Ragnos, who was one of the oldest Sith Lords in Existence.
- Is quite possibly, one of the most well written Star Wars characters in existence
- Jedi Knight and Dark Forces games are masterpieces. :D!!!!
- Jan Ors>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leia and Amidala anyday. She is simply more useful and more charismatic than both of them combined
- Has, I kid you not, used three Lightsaber Colors. Green, then Yellow, then Blue. XD!!!!!
- Can react to beam fire from Phasers. These Beams travel at around light speeds.
- Was quick enough to stop Voyager's Destruction Sequence in the Engineering Section.
- Can travel across large levels in a few minutes.
- Reacted to Lightning Blasts from Etherians.
- Saved Voyager in time from the Harvester Ship by reaching the Gunship's Controls to fire the Cannon.
- Able to fight against a Hirogen Hunter, who used a Tetryon Cannon that sprays Tetryon Rounds at light speeds
- Outpace the Vohrsoth's Quake attacks, which target the opponent with perfect accuracy. Alex however avoided them by simply running past their radius
- Can survive numerous Phaser blasts. Some of them are able to melt down anything to nothingness
- Has survived explosions to the face and only took scratches
- Able to take Borg Prosthetic Weaponry. The same type that can assimilate anything they wanted. Munro however managed to resist this, at least until he is weak enough
- Took swipes from Species 8472 warriors, who are able to tear apart sections of a Borg Cube with their own claws.
- Has taken Crossbow bolts in the Holodeck, which are much more powerful than a Bow and can penetrate armor.
- Pretty much tanked the Vohrsoth's Attacks, which included Quakes and energy Bursts
- Took acidic attacks from Exomorphs
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| Alex with the Assault Rifle |
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| Miles O'Brien using the Phaser |
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| Enhanced Compression Rifle |
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| The Pulse Rifle Variant |
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| The Elite Force 2 Variant |
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| Assimilation is Futile........ The Next Terminator XD!! |
- Has officially and cleanly, saved Voyager four times. The First was when Voyager was about to Self Destruct, The Second was a Scavenger Attack being repelled, the Third was against The Reavers and Vohrsoth and the Fourth was after being captured by the Borg
- Defeated the Hirogen Hunter
- Defeated countless hostile enemies of the Federation.
- Defeated Suldok, who even became a giant monstrous lifeform. Alex actually defeated a old school First Person Shooter boss XD!!!
- Defeated an advanced Borg Drone and ended the fight with the greatest Star Trek Line of all time..... "Assimilation is Futile"....... Now, George Hancock alone would be rivaled XD!!!!
- Successfully infiltrated a Scavenger Base to retrieve Isodesium and rescue Telsia.
- Defeated the Vohrsoth cleanly, this also included the fact that it summoned multiple Reavers and Harvesters to attack Alex yet it was Alex who prevailed
- Was able to once again rescue Telsia in an Excelsior-Class Ship that was attacked by Exomorphs
- Helped Attrexians against the Exomorphs
- Captured the Ferengi Merchant
- Is trained by Tuvok, one of the best Vulcans in Star Trek :D!!!!
- Currently stationed on the U.S.S Enterprise, under the command of Jean-Luc Picard, who is Star Trek's Best Captain :D!!!
- The Elite Force Games are amazing :D!!!!!
- Superior Speed and Durability. Adding Kyle's own Shield and Force Protection, Alex won't be able to harm him at all
- Is much more experienced
- Despite Alex's Specialized Combat Training, we are pitting a Jedi Master who also has superb skills as a Marksman. That's a One Two Punch
- Using Force Powers alone, Kyle literally ends Alex's life
- Is much more Athletic
- The Lightsaber........... Do I need to say more? XD!!
- Alex's Heavier Weapons do pack a bit more teeth than Kyle's Concussion Rifle......
- ...... That's it XD!!!!
- Does slightly edge out in terms of destructive weaponry.......
- Is pretty much done for in terms of Speed and Durability. Not even close
- Less Experienced
- Is pretty much laughable in terms of Combat Skills
- I mean come on, does Alex have anything that counters the Force?
- Doesn't do athletic flips and such...... No Contest
- Well, Well, Well, say hello to the Lightsaber Alex
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| The Winner is Kyle Katarn |
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